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My situation is that I have a BTO originally applied for in 2019 (key collection sometime around 3Q-2023, so MOP likely to run till 3Q-2028) but I had broken up with my ex-girlfriend (with whom i applied the BTO with) about one year ago. We tried to substitute my current girlfriend for my ex-girlfriend but HDB rejected this as our combined income was deemed to be too high based on the applicable 2019 ceiling ($12k).

Now, we are considering the option of substituting my dad's name for my ex-girlfriend's and this is something HDB has indicated that they can consider (and they've allowed in the past before). However, my dad would have to sell his current flat within 6 months from key collection.

One issue is that my current girlfriend is not so keen on staying with an in-law, especially in the first few years of marriage. As such, one option we are considering is to let my dad stay in the BTO until at least MOP (his name will probably be included as an essential occupier) and me and my girlfriend (subsequently wife, hopefully) will buy our own EITHER resale HDB (but this will be subject to HDB's special permission of course because i understand the general rule is I shouldn't have my name in 2 HDBs - does anyone know of cases where this has been allowed? anecdotally i heard of one but not sure how reliable...) or a private condo.

Just wondering, if my future wife (current girlfriend) buys private condo right before we get married (I'll have to provide financial backing of course, and her income must be high enough to support a reasonable loan amount), what happens when we are subsequently required (after marrying), to add her name to the HDB (BTO) flat I would have with my dad? From my conversations with the HDB officer in-charge of my BTO, they mentioned that upon marriage, it is a *requirement* to add my spouse either as an owner or occupier of the existing flat. But what if she holds the private property already? Based on HDB's website on "change of occupiers", seems like we wouldn't be able to add someone as an occupier if within the MOP period, they own an interest in private property.

Also, more generally, what happens when you add somebody as an occupier during the MOP period. Does the MOP period get extended?

Thank you very much!
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Robbie Chen Chee Howe
Hi Mr Tan,

Noted on your above scenario. Just wish to add that you cannot own 2 HDB flats, hence you will be required to sell off the BTO flat should you purchase another resale flat after year 2028.

Alternatively, your girlfriend can purchase her own private property before marriage, and you will be able to hold onto both the HDB flat and the private property.

I am experienced and well-versed in both HDB and private transactions. I will be able to assist you in your property plans. Please get in touch with me for a more in-depth discussion.

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  • DT
    Hi Robbie

    Thanks for your reply. Can I check if you are very sure / have come across a recent case where the girlfriend purchased a private property (eg condo) right before marriage and subsequently got married to someone who owns a BTO/new flat still within the MOP period and HDB did not require the girlfriend to dispose of the private property (condo)? Seems to be getting some conflicting replies from the "Team PropertyGuru" response.

    Is it a requirement (from HDB) that the girlfriend who gets married to someone who currently owns a BTO flat with his dad (within MOP) to be added as an owner or occupier of the BTO? If so, what about the requirement for such occupiers/owners not to own a private property prior to being added to such a flat (which is still within MOP)?

    Thank you!
Robbie Chen Chee Howe
Hi Mr Tan,

Noted on your above scenario. Just wish to add that you cannot own 2 HDB flats, hence you will be required to sell off the BTO flat should you purchase another resale flat after year 2028.

Alternatively, your girlfriend can purchase her own private property before marriage, and you will be able to hold onto both the HDB flat and the private property.

I am experienced and well-versed in both HDB and private transactions. I will be able to assist you in your property plans. Please get in touch with me for a more in-depth discussion.

Should you need require further assistance in matters relating to property, please contact me at my mobile 9748 6305  . I will be happy to assess and share with you the possibilities for you in the current market.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Robbie Chen
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Dear Sir,

Sorry to hear about your situation. Based on what you have shared, it will be recommended to add your dad name into the BTO so as to keep the BTO since the key collection is not too far away. Having a brand new flat with a fresh lease is also better financially as compared to keeping your dad's resale flat.

For you and gf, your gf can consider purchasing a private property for both of you to stay when you are married or you both can consider renting for the time being if staying with in laws is not an option. If the condo is purchased before the marriage, she is able to keep the condo.

The 5 years MOP is no dependent on the occupier and therefore it will not be extended beyond the 5 years period unless you rent out the unit within the 5 years MOP. Please feel free to contact me so that I can understand your situation better and assist you further!

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  • DT
    Hi Nick

    Thanks for your reply. Can I check if you are very sure / have come across a recent case where someone purchased a private property (eg condo) right before marriage and subsequently got married to someone who owns a BTO/new flat still within the MOP period and HDB did not require the couple to either dispose of the private property (condo) or hDB? Seems to be getting some conflicting replies from the "Team PropertyGuru" response.

    Is it a requirement (from HDB) that the girlfriend who gets married to someone who currently owns a BTO flat with his dad (within MOP) to be added as an owner or occupier of the BTO? If so, what about the requirement for such occupiers/owners not to own a private property prior to being added to such a flat (which is still within MOP)?

    Thank you!
Hi Mr Tan,

I believe Robbie and Nick have provided adequate replies to your situation, however, I am just curious why are you not considering dropping the BTO and seek other options? Given existing sentiments, the potential of entering directly to a private property can potentially reap better returns moving forward than waiting out for BTO and sitting out for another 5 years due to the MOP upon collection of keys.

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  • DT
    Hi Geryl

    Thanks for your reply.

    I think one reason why I'm not keen on dropping the BTO is because of the location (right next to Boon Keng MRT) and also high floor (#32) because we were very lucky to get a very good queue number for a very popular project. Talked to a few people and consensus is that there's a high chance of significant upside from the purchase price (660k).

    Do let me know if you have any further thoughts given the above additional information. Thanks very much!
Hi,

1) I think I can understand your persistence in getting the BTO. This is the common understanding for all SC to get the advantage of subsidies from the govt.
2) It is also common knowledge that all types of residential property are appreciated in Singapore, especially the new ones.
3) The appreciation of different types are as follow in the 15yrs trend:
(a) Private: 140.36%
(b) EC: 179.13%
(c) HDB: 88.23%
4) You may feel that it is alright as long as you get capital appreciation as long as you get it. But one thing you might not be aware of is we in our life properly only buy 2 or a max 3 residential properties. You will cherish every purchase.
5) My suggestion is to let go of your BTO and select EC instead to build your nest. Not only the appreciation is higher, but the initial payout is also lower than private. You can get a more reasonable size to build a family with your current combined income.
6) In this way, your dad can stay put in his current flat, and you and your spouse can have your own.
7) Moreover, if your gf buys a private and you have to assist in financing the property without ownership is also unfair to you if anything happened to your relationship.
8) Try to look into things from a different angle than trying to go around in your situation might bring you to a brighter route.

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  • DT
    Hi CK

    Thanks for your reply.

    I think one reason why I'm not keen on dropping the BTO is because of the location (right next to Boon Keng MRT) and also high floor (#32) because we were very lucky to get a very good queue number for a very popular project. Talked to a few people and consensus is that there's a high chance of significant upside from the purchase price (660k).

    Do let me know if you have any further thoughts given the above additional information. Thanks very much!

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