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Our BTO HDB near to Punggol MRT will hit MOP this year.. We bought a condo in our parents name in 2013 with a bank loan (low value) under my name.. (It was allowed that time). We are contemplating to buy another condo in our own name if prices are good after our MOP. Our HDB is fully paid and we don't see any good use for our CPF OA. The condo loan is paid using cash, not CPF, so our OA is gradually accumulating again. Some questions we have..

- if we want to sell one of the ppty, should it be the HDB or condo (TOP 2017)?
- our CPF balance is very low (just cleared HDB loan), can we use our CPF to service the new ppty?
- did a loan assessment and we can loan up to $2m if we cleared the bank loan. $1m if we don't. What will you do if you are in our shoes? Yes we have the cash to clear if we wish. Can $1m+ get a decent 3 bed condo in the east?
- don't dare to look ard in case we see something we like but we can't buy. Any workaround solution to buy before hitting MOP?
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Good morning Lene,,

That's quite a big chunk of info. Let me try to answer, or it'd be best that we meet up to lay out the issues one by one.

1) if you don't sell your hdb, you'd have to incur absd of 7% for the condo purchase
2) if you sell your condo, you'll incur SSD of 4% or 8% depending on the exact date of signing the S&P agreement
3) to use cpf for the new property, you need to set aside at least half of the current. minimum sum ($80.5k) in your OA/SA/CPFIS before you can utilise any OA for the property's expenses
4) yes you can get a decent 3-bedroom for that amount

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YT Tan (陈永达)
Good morning Lene,

Let me help with this.

It really depends. Since the condo was purchased in 2013, you will still be subject to seller's stamp duty unless your parents hold it till 4 years from the purchase date.

If you dont want to be subject to SSD then you might want to consider selling off your BTO. By doing so, you wont have to incur ABSD and can consider about buying 2 properties under 2 individuals names if both of you are financially capable of doing so.

If not, you can consider to decouple. 1 of you remains as owner while the other as occupier. Owner has to refund the occupier the CPF OA funds he forks out. This way, occupier will save on ABSD cost as well and at the same time, you still able to rent out the HDB if you want.

Do take note that since you had utilised CPF OA funds for your current HDB, you will be set aside half of CPF minimum sum $80.5k in your CPF OA + SA first before you can use the excess OA funds on the purchase.

If I am in your shoes, I will opt for either one of the suggestions that I mentioned earlier. Save on ABSD cost and able to own as many properties within my means.

$1m might be able to get you a 3 bedders. But most likely it will be an old 99 leasehold property. Probably you can share more information like property age you are looking at, preferred location in the east, minimum unit size etc.

Lastly may i know when's your MOP date? You can seek for permission from HDB branch office to purchase private property within MOP but you must have valid reasons to do so and approval is based on case by case basis.

Hope my sharing is beneficial to your property purchase.

May I know how can I continue to value add in your purchase?

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Hi Lene,

Selling the condo will incur Sellers Stamp Duty of 8% or 4% depending on how long you have held it, so purely from an angle to minimize costs, selling your hdb maybe better. If your HDB has a better appreciation potential than your condo, selling the condo may not be a bad idea after all but current market buyers with the loan capabilities for condo are not plentiful.

Once either property is sold, you will be liable for total 10% stamp duties for the next property purchase (assume condo in east). Would recommend to get a freehold (be it condo or landed) this time for your family planning and working towards securing your retirement years. Yes 1mil can get a decent resale 3-bedroom in the east.

You can only use the excess OA after setting aside 80.5k in your OA+SA for your 2nd property purchase. However it does seems like you have a substantial amount of funds on hand, perhaps may I have more info and your requirements so to make better recommendations?

Thanks and hope to value-add to your plans further.

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Sorry to clarify, just re-read and realised the condo was bought in your parents name, hence only 3% stamp duties apply for your next condo purchase (since 7% absd is not applicable). Thanks for taking the time to read. Read More
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Hi Lene,

1. I would suggest you to keep the condo as if you were to sell it, you would incur Seller Stamp Duty of either 4% or 8%. It will not make financial sense. Moreover, if your parents were to sell this property, it is likely that they will not be able to purchase another property due to the new rules restriction and also their age not being able to take a long loan tenure.

2. As for the HDB, I would suggest you to keep it. As it is near MRT, you will be able to enjoy a good rental yield as it is near to the new waterway point and MRT. It should be able to generate a pretty decent passive income for you.

3. Alternatively, if you wish to cash out, it may not be a bad option as HDB prices has stabilised. The government has also announced today that more flats will be built in non matured estate such as Punggol in the near future. There may be limited upside in terms of price appreciation in the near term. It may be wise to cash out at this point of time.

4.If I am in a similar situation, I will purchase a private property to stay and rent out the HDB to generate a steady stream of passive income. For slightly over 1 mil, you can get a decent 3 BR in the east. I am currently marketing one such unit, you can refer to the link to get a rough idea:

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/19612614/for-sale-tanamera-crest

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Hi Lene,

Are all these maneuver part of your investment planning and have you already charted out the various probable returns from the existing trend that you are comfortable in stretching your current finances to get a 3rd property or sell your HDB to purchase another private residential property?

Or can I ask if you need to make this move because of family living lifestyle?

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