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My husband is a PR and I'm a Singaporean. We have a High Floor Renovated 4 room HDB flat at Central Area, purchased at $512K in 2009. (Fulfilled 5yrs MOP) Now we're thinking to buy a Condo.

Questions: Can I know what are the differences;

If we sell this HDB and purchase a Condo?
If we wish to keep the HDB and purchase a Condo?

Do we need to set aside the minimum sum of $77.5k in our CPF OA+SA in each account?

We have a 40K CPF Grant in 2009.

If we managed to sell our HDB at $800K, how much profit can we get after deduct all the loans, interests and 40K grant? (We do not know how to calculate)

If we were to purchase a Condo at $1 Million, can you advise us what are the breakdown that we need to pay.(Kindly advise is it by cash or CPF) And for the legal fees, stamp duty, miscellaneous fees and ABSD, can pay by CPF or only Cash Payment?

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Both of you need to log in HDB page with your singpass to see how much outstanding loans and CPF with interests to paid back now to have clear pictures of cash proceeds.

You can use CPF to pay on the mentioned items as you will have cash proceeds from the profit too.

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Hi Eileen,

That's quite a number of questions, it appears you have not decided on your objectives.

The benefits of keeping both hdb and condo will be an extra source of rental income which can go toward funding your 2nd property mortgage. However the upfront costs will be high since for 2nd residential property and 2nd property loan, assume joint purchase, your breakdown will be as follows:
Cash 25%
Cpf 25%
Max bank loan 50%
Stamp duties and legal fees approx 13%

You also need to set aside the respective 1/2 of your minimum sums in your CPF before any excess OA can be used.

If you are selling your hdb to fund the condo, things will be relatively easier as you can take up a max bank loan of 80% if you time the sale & purchase appropriately. The typical breakdown (assume joint purchase) will be as follows:
Cash 5%
Cpf 15%
Max bank loan 80%
Stamp duties and legal approx 8%

From the looks of it, I believe you will have positive cash proceeds from the sale.
The timing is crucial as you need to sell and buy together and make the transition smooth, and minimize the costs outlay.

As this involves a few permutations, it will be easier if I can have more details so to make better recommendations. Will be glad to illustrate the full financial planning of all available options so you have the overall picture of what to expect for each option, and whether it maximizes your benefits in doing so.

Thanks and may I have more details so to value-add further to your plans? Look forward to hear from you soon.

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Hi Eileen,

Essentially, the 2 most important factors to note:
1) if you decide to keep your HDB, yes you need the minimum sum in each of your CPF accounts, pay ABSD, and you can only obtain a maximum of 50% loan (do take note TDSR applies here as well)
2) if you decide to sell your HDB unit and purchase the condo, you can take up to 80% loan, and the only minimum cash you need is 5% (if you have enough funds in your CPF for downpayment, BSD, legal fees etc)

Feel free to contact me at your convenience, and we can carry on from there.

Thanks and regards,
Teck Chuan, Ng
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Hi Eileen,

1. If you are to sell the HDB and upgrade to a condo, you will need to plan your sales and purchase properly so that the transition will be smooth and you will not need to find a temporary place to stay during the transition.

2. If you choose to keep your HDB, the condo will be a 2nd property and you will be required to pay an Additional Buyer Stamp Duty of 7% of the condo purchase price. This is on top of the normal stamp duty of about 3%. For the loan, if you still have an outstanding mortgage loan for this current property, you will only be eligible to loan up to 50% for the condo.

3. You are required to set aside 1/2 your minimum sum and is only able to use the excess to service your 2nd property.

4. You are not required to return the 40k grant. Your sales proceed will be:

Selling Price - Outstanding Loan - CPF refund plus interest for both yourself and your husband - Conveyancing Fees - Admin - Agent Commission.

Conveyancing Fees and Admin fees is usually less than $500 if you use a HDB lawyer.

5. For a 1 mil condo, assuming you sell your HDB and purchase a condo, you will be eligible to loan up to 80%. Breakdown is as such:

a. 80% Loan - $800,000
b. 5% cash - $50,000
c. 15% CPF - $150,000
e. Normal Stamp Duty - $24,600 (can use CPF)
f. Conveyancing Fee - $3000 approx. (can use CPF)
g. ABSD (if keeping HDB) - $70,000

Please feel free to contact me so that I can draft up a full financial plan for you and guide and assist you thru the sales and purchase process.

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    Thanks Nick for your detailed explanation. May I know for the installment of the condo bank loan, how much can we utilise our cpf?

    For the down payment of the condo, how much of our cpf can we use? Can we utilise all our cpf?

    From HDB upgrade to Condo,if after condo down grade to HDB again next time, is it possible to buy HDB again?
Evening Eileen,

Firstly, should you opt to keep the HDB unit and purchase the private property as your second property, you will be required to set aside $80.5k for the CPF minimum sum. If your current HDB unit is still under mortgage, you can obtain max of 50% loan for your second purchase. And if the unit is place under both names, ABSD of 10% is payable.
Secondly, without knowing how much is your outstanding loan, total CPF utilization, the accrued interest and the actual location of your unit, it would be impossible for me to provide with the accurate financial computation.
Lastly, as per indicated on point 1, how much cash you will need will depend on whether you are selling or keeping your HDB unit.

Do feel free to contact me should you require additional assistance.

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Hi Eileen,
I do see you have lots of question and before making the decision how to move on. Why not have a short meet up session for me to address all your doubts and assist you to compute the estimated financial plan?

To assist and advise you more in details, kindly drop me an email for me to share.

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Hi Eileen,

I am assuming that you still have an outstanding home loan for your current HDB.

For purchasing Condo without selling HDB:
Maximum 50% loan subjected to income eligibility. CPF utilisation is permitted provided you have set aside half of the minimum sum required. Take note of additional buyer's stamp duty applicable on top of the typical 3% buyer's stamp duty. ABSD is computed based on your husband's citizenship. 25% of the amount must be in cash. ABSD is also payable in cash.

For purchasing condo after selling HDB:
Maximum 80% loan subjected to income eligibility. CPF utilisation is permitted. 3% buyer's stamp duty is applicable. 5% of the amount must be in cash.

Should you decide to sell your existing HDB and wish to estimate the sales proceeds from this sale. Assuming $800k selling price, you will need to deduct the following out from the sales price to get your sales proceeds:

1) Deposit (up to $5k) from purchaser
2) Outstanding home loan
3) CPF utilised plus accrued interest
4) Any other miscellaneous fees

Take note that there will also be administrative charges for conveyancing the sale of your HDB (legal fees, discharging of home loan and etc.)

For downgrading in future, assuming that the current regulations in place is still applicable by then, you are eligible to purchase only a resale HDB in future, however, you will need to dispose off your existing private property within 6 months from taking possession of your HDB then. You will not be able to enjoy any concessions from HDB for a period of 30 months after the sale of your private property.

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YT Tan (陈永达)
Good evening Eileen,

Do take note of these cooling measures if you decide to hold on to existing HDB and purchase a condo:

1) if you have outstanding mortgage, you can only take up to max 50% bank loan for your purchase.

2) if you have utilised CPF OA funds for existing HDB, you have to set aside half of minimum sum ($80.5k) in each CPF OA + SA first before you can use the excess CPF OA funds for this purchase.

3) You will be subject to 10% additional buyer's stamp duty for this joint purchase on top of buyer's stamp duty of estimated 3%. Higher of 7% as SC or 10% as SPR.

But if you decide to sell HDB and upgrade to condo:

1) you wont need to pay any ABSD, just BSD as IRAS will consider this purchase as your first and only property in Singapore.

2) you can obtain max 80% bank loan.

3) you can utilise all your CPF OA funds.

Perhaps we can discuss and see whether can you restructure your property portfolio from 1 HDB to two private properties. 1 for own stay while the other for investment.

To derive sales proceeds: it will be sale price minus off these expenses:

1) utilised CPF OA funds plus accrued interest (inclusive of your grant)
2) any outstanding loan
3) resale application fee $80
4) legal fees
5) pro rated property tax
6) agent's commission

Assume you sell off HDB and purchase a private property and able to obtain max 80% bank loan, your initial outlay will be as such:

1) 5% cash downpayment
2) 15% CPF OA funds or cash downpayment
3) estimated 3% buyer's stamp duty
4) legal fees

You are able to utilise CPF OA funds for the payment of stamp duties and legal fees. Just that usually law firm will advise buyers to pay stamp duties in cash first because CPF board might not release the funds quick enough to pay IRAS.

Perhaps we can do a financial calculation to see what's your current status and how can we proceed further.

As for usage of CPF OA funds, I might have replied you in another post. If you are still unclear, feel free to contact me.

Lastly, you can only downgrade to a resale HDB from a private property. If you are thinking of getting a BTO, you will have to sell off condo first and observe a waiting period of 30 months before you can apply for BTO.

May I know what's your future plans?

Hope I can be part of your property plans. Cheers!

Warmest Regards,
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